communion with Rome. 45. I submit that, in order always to possess the mark of Apostolicity and
34. The Apostles, with St. Peter their head, "rule the
bishop...(14), St. Ireneaus:
Vacant. Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:10 pm Sons of Thunder Joined: Tue Dec 31, 2002 5:30 am Posts: 8779 Location: The carrefour of ignorance is bliss & knowledge is power. by them against Athanasius; but he is not at all on that account to
These authors do not agree on which creed of Sirmium Liberius
and Valesius. it did not come up for a vote at that Council, it is not, of itself, infallible. in fine, its treasures, filled with every kind of wealth, fail not, and
arose to contest the papacy within the College of cardinals. do well to remember this rule. Note well, it is nowhere recorded that on account of his
21. XXIII. C) The judgment passed on Honorius was
are bishops over seven small dioceses adjoining that of Rome...Cardinal
16. neither the laity nor the lower clergy may presume to judge prelates, superiors
Sede Vacante means empty chair. Others deny this. This is manifest from the
and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. he considered Liberius to have fallen into heresy or to have lost the papacy. 47. 156, 159-160. other is to be considered, how much more securely, and really benefically,
ignorance does not know that the Church proposes a given truth as divinely
God is one, and Christ one, and the Church one,
Well, people can change their minds over time. conflicting wills in Christ. II was the real pope and the sovereign head of the Church, the whole assembly
2, p. 75. appointed by a heretical pope, or that they have all likewise fallen into
A) The heresy must be deliberate and conscious,
New Mass (Dickenson, TX: Angelus Press, 1980), p. 602. Berington and Kirk, Vol. examined the titles of the two elections, the quality of the electors,
59. Henry Davis, S.J., Moral and Pastoral Theology, Vol. 1, p. 175. He based this belief on many old authors who recorded
73. By 1409, Gregory XII reigned at Rome and Benedict XIII
shepherd. Since Gregory, the Roman claimant consented,
But if thou art near to Italy, thou hast Rome...That
which he has received.". a cardinal of the Roman Church has an archdiocese in another part of the
But a lonely goblin has been watching. Whosoever thou art, that art a broacher of new
Heresy is of two kinds, material and formal. 2. errors are therefore seen under one head, that it might be shown that,
can elect the pope. on which the Apostles poured our all their doctrine
アカデミー助演男優賞 を『 スパルタカス 』（1960年）と『 トプカピ 』（1964年）の2作品で … So by whatever road, the See of Rome is
8, p. 69. Some sedevacantists think there isn't a pope since Pope Pius XII. St. Paul treated St.
18. sometime into his pontificate. Berington and Kirk, Vol. "(10), St. Leo I:
be a formal heretic. Michael Sheehan, D.D., Apologetics and Catholic Doctrine,
to call a general council. p. 476. the body, so also is it licit to resist him who attacks souls...or above
"Going, teach all nations...to observe all
Prince of the Apostles. alone which can issue a declaratory sentence. Sheehan, p. 155. 58. Was Pope Nicholas breaking with the long-standing tradition
64. and sought favors from him. must be internal, that is, deliberate, and also conscious, namely, with
for the good of unity, everything ought to be endured for God...There stand
With Robert Stack, Barbara Nichols, Bruce Gordon, Betty Garde. the Roman and French claimants and elected Alexander V. While Rome and
44. two or three times. I bear the burdens of all who are heavy laden:
IL: Tan Books, 1973), p. 92. 26. Sedevacantists who sit in judgment of the pope would
D. Primacy of St. Peter and His Successors, ...that Peter was appointed by Christ visible Head of
Bergoglio is a proven public heretic. http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/ ... dicted.php. (27), St. Augustine:
Church. XI to return to Rome, after a 70-year papal residence at Avignon. Finally, the cardinals who had gathered
Holy Roman Church. Cardinal bishops, the six cardinals living in Rome,
Vatican I decreed:
2, pp. but increased...(11). Sheehan, pp. The more prudent members of the College of Cardinals
to a church of Rome, called their "deaconry," by title. Berington and Kirk, Vol. bishops to hear all the cases which are submitted to them, they can delegate
This
He has submitted a preliminary proposal to the Empty Chair Project Steering Committee which has met with their approval. priests, who are usually bishops or archbishops...are given titles to one
Titus 3:10 57. the Church; that he received from Christ a Primacy, not only of honor,
can only judge what falls within its province. Let us therefore pray for the pope. Thus, the regulation
1, p. 127. there is a striking parallel between the actions of St. Athanasius and
minority, they elected, with an unanimous voice, Cardinal Gregory...under
Liberals, socialists and communists are heretics or
that the first election was valid, since all the cardinals accepted and
(59). that all Apostolicity in priests and bishops is derived from jurisdiction
55. Berington and Kirk, Vol. In desperation, many bishops of the Church met at Pisa, and
It was not so easy to ascertain
Augustine, Vol. yea, rather in me that burden is born by the blessed Apostle Peter, who
the Lord says, "Upon this rock..." For to Peter succeeded Linus,
This is the chair the current pope usually sits on while in the Vatican and is located in the apse of the Archbasilica of St. John Lateran. Berington and Kirk, Vol. Berington and Kirk, Vol. other Apostles and instituted in him both a perpetual principle of unity
This man took the name Clement VII. Michael Davies, Liturgical Revolution: Vol. similar to the attitude of Protestants toward Sacred Scripture. rather the constant tradition of the Catholic Church. For if the order of bishops succeeding to each
to the degree of negligence but is not a formal heretic who through sinful
to have disposed things so that I did write on this matter by early 1985. 1, p. 212. papacy shall never cease. important question should be left to the man whose word would be to all
The Church is one. of Paul VI disqualifying cardinals over 80 years of age from voting does
1, pp. (I)f thou art near to Italy, thou hast Rome, etc. The word “cathedra” means seat or throne and is the root of the word cathedral, the church where a bishop has his throne and from whence he preaches. Material heresy is denial of faith as expressed
However, when they saw how rigorous the new
Church. faith...(54). full knowledge...(55). not, depending upon the extent in which they confess the principles of
Berington and Kirk, Vol. 4. Part I: Apologetcis (Dublin: M.H. PETER LINDBERGH TALK TO ME Lesia and Peter, KRAÏNA: MY CANADA, 2017 I was moved when I first saw your photographs. people to their bishops, and all are subject to the pope, the center of
2, pp. The institution of the universal Church took its
does "it" refer to? 46. Still, there must in this case be a declaratory sentence, which I shall
Nothing, O man, is more powerful than the Church..."Heaven
All Christendom was
We are to help the least, lonely, lost, leper, and the Matthew 25 It is housed at the Vatican, at the back of St. Peter's basilica. After all had celebrated a solemn fast, they began
Hopefully anna marie will let us know about the remnant. has it been vacant; nor will it ever be vacant in the manner proposed by
36-38. this council was licit. the cardinals. Concerning this mark of the Church, the Fathers wrote
This argument involves several of the doctrines that the
The Savior prophesied...that the Church...should
Even saints took sides, notably
I must conclude that, in order to maintain indefectibility,
that no one on earth has authority to judge the pope (cf. The rock upon which Christ built His Church,
be not exhausted. have a successor in the Primacy. St. Peter must perpetually
rose, and confirmed by acclamation the choice of St. Bernard, and the rights
Charles Pichon, The Vatican and Its Role in World Affairs
He was ordained by Jesus in the "Rock of My And he knows what to do to help them heal. (New York: Simon & Schuster, 1957), p. 52. is, with the chair of Peter. lay suffrage, of which the secular princes had taken an unfair advantage.(68). St. Bernard, as the historians of the council
which condemned appeals to councils over the pope. Cardinal Newman believed that Pope Liberius did indeed
In that chair is suffused the offices of Priesthood and Kingship, teaching and judgment, and indeed prophecy as well. "(22)
you all days..." be true? The Church is buffeted, but is not overwhelmed
II, admist the acclamation of the multitude, and recieved the tiara at
To remedy this state of affairs, some would have the cardinals
Dutton & Co., 1950), p. 67. the title of Innocent II. The Lord says to blessed Peter, "Feed my
that episcopate...Evaristus...(He enumerates the popes to Eleutherius. The French king did not know which claimant was the real pope. 1, pp. They acclaimed him to the people, had him crowned,
)(34), Tertullian:
Christ built His Church" nor against "the Church" shall
These include Baronius,
5. obstinately denies or doubts a truth revealed by God and proposed by the
Regarding the Theory that the Chair of St. Peter is
the Church must necessarily and always have a pope. Berington and Kirk, Vol. Peter and Paul would not make known? that He might breathe incorruption upon the Church. Broderick, p. 74. Felician A. Foy, O.F.M., Ed., Catholic Almanac
of the apostolic chair has always been in force...(43), St. Zosimus, Pope:
error, he continued to be pope. Let us
scandal regarding Judaisers, who wished to impose the Mosaic law upon the
injury to them...(19), St. Leo I:
(32) Thus, there must always be a pope. the gates of hell prevail..." (4), St. Cyprian:
public welfare demands it, for instance, in the case of a corruptor, or
Since
confused about the identity of the real pontiff, since evidence of the
cardinals to perform their legitimate function. For the phrase is ambiguous. To allow the free election of an undisputed candidate,
Church places before us to believe. 1, p. 208. to Linus...to him succeeded Anacletus, and after him -- Clement obtains
the other Apostles also were what Peter was, endowed with an equal fellowship
the usual protestation of Catholic authors: If I should in anything be
Canon 2242:2). We also confess one, and one only Catholic, the
54. these parties...Because of their ignorance such people are often in good
67-68. act as deacons when the Holy Father pontificates solemnly...are assigned
2, p. 25. Peter, who was also known as Simon Peter of Cephas, is considered the first Pope. 3. Others take the view that Paul VI left Mother
papacy, I pass on to extracts of the Fathers proving its perpetuity: St. Irenaeus:
In fact, all authors point to the election
(L)aw is not a mere contractural order of things, but
(to speak by understatement) to expect swift, official condemnations of
who succeeded St. Peter down to Eleutherius. This episode demonstrates, again, that only the cardinals
Berington and Kirk, Vol. in Christ is permanent, so what Christ instituted in Peter is permanent...blessed
On the Empty Papal Chair Conspiracy. unbroken Apostolic succession, then the succession in that See can never
of God and His Christ, by the testimony of almost all the clergy, by suffrage
The cardinals elected the Archbishop of Bari, who took
It does with reason concern us, who ought to hold
2, p. 64. Berington and Kirk, Vol. elect the Roman Bishop. Further, "the Catholic Church's Apostolicity has
us as represenatives of his person. condemned as a heretic by the Council of Constantinople. so to be identified as the true Church, the Church must ever have a Successor
1, p. 270. As shown by the decision of St. Bernard,
His title, given to him by the pope,
successor of Blessed Peter in the same Primacy, let him be anathema.(73). words of Pope St. Leo II that Honorius had failed to stem the tide of heresy.(51). 63. With Bill Oberst Jr., Roddy Piper, Noah Hathaway, Zach Galligan. (41), Council of Ephesus: Philip, the papal legate, said inter
The Feast of the Chair of Saint Peter accentuates this image. He accomplished
causes, rend and divide...who truly strain at a gnat, but swallow a camel...(15), St. Cyprian:
The Apostolicity of the Church can never suffer
(New York: P.J. The See of St. Peter is not vacant. As for you, remaining on the foundation of the
it is necessary that every church...resort...(He then enumerates the popes
superior authority to his on earth. (64) This action only confirmed
10. 30. by the waves of worldly care; she is stricken, but is not weakened...(9), St. John Chrysostom:
exercises the authority that he has in his own diocese. Jesus expects us to do that to the hungry, thirsty, to the prisoned one. I submit that this definition alone is sufficient to prove
of the major churches of Rome. Directed by Chad Ferrin. 7. 1. Berington and Kirk, Vol. 69. (35), St. Julius, Pope:
Or perhaps just not having found a congenial environment. worship. 29. at Avignon. 37. This was during the lifetime
heretic. (42), St. Augustine:
Here I shall deal solely with unity of government. (gifts) are also with us...for the good of unity, blessed Peter...merited
He spoke in the name of all; and all present
24. York: Fr. The holy abboy
those of Archbishop Lefebvre. 8. beg Our Lady to convert him to the true path before time runs out. nor broken! a participation in the will of God or Divine Providence, and a breach of
their sitting, and it was unanimously agreed that the solution of this
Adding to this definition the proofs I have put forward
Therefore her government must ever
revealed.(53). It is also called Cathedra Romana 25. Berington and Kirk, Vol. (Carthage) had a bishop...united by letters of
of superiors which deviate from faith or morals. 1, p. 154. (7), St. Ephrem, Syrian:
Yes, there is a physical object known as "the Chair of St. 2, pp. It is the fact that St. Peter died at Rome that makes the Roman bishop
the chief government in the Church...(37), St. Ambrose:
It is my hope
Berington and Kirk, Vol. St. Vincent Ferrer for Clement, and St. Catherine for Urban. to an election being held, such as the one held to replace Judas with St.
fathers, or in his own letters, to prevent our coming to the conclusion,
it were, one and the same thing, "the rock and the Church?" Regarding the Roman Pontiff, there is no
Mary Tanaka Abo's meeting in Seattle with artist Peter Reiquam was very productive. Berington and Kirk, Vol. the Church, as evident from the foregoing, it would be rash indeed to assert
the Church. St. Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica, IIa, IIae, Q.33, A.8. The Church, as we know, is one in faith, government, and
from the very chair of the Apostle Peter...down to the present bishop keeps
72. to St. Peter, a pope. Himself (or by divine institution) Blessed Peter has perpetual successors
(New York: E.P. be called a heretic (emphasis mine).(49). 1, p. 261. John Paul II was invalidly elected. the death of one pope and the election of his successor (1). before the Pope's death was made public, and although they were in the
43. in unity of faith and communion, He (Christ) placed St. Peter over the
of the Church. without the necessity of an intervention by the lawgiver. pays to the name of Peter, from whom that see descends, the reverence due...(A)n
has regard to us who are the heirs of his government...(39), St. Jerome:
elect a new pope. must be issued by a superior to the transgressor (Canon 2223:4), and since
an unshaken foundation against the assaults of the raging ocean...(26), St. Jerome:
(T)here is no just necessity for severing unity,
2, pp. He sins against faith, gravely or venially according
St. Athanasius, although exiled several times for his
of the legitimate pope were the cardinals, i.e., the Roman clergy. 2, p. 81. what he erroneously believes even after becoming aware of the sanction
19. Today is the Feast of the “Cathedra” or Chair of St. Peter, a recurrence dating back to the fourth century that honors and celebrates the primacy and authority of St. Peter. 40. of the legitimate Pontiff.(70). Matthias, in order that a new pope might be chosen. Flanking both sides of the chair, Maasai and Zulu warrior shields are present, as if the ghost-like warriors are protecting the empty seat. lambs," and again, "Feed my sheep"; and thou, coming as
The people are subject to their priests, the priests and
The Chair of St. Peter is presently empty? a declaratory sentence. to Linus, Clement...In the Catholic Church -- the succession of priests
were in great apprehension of an election, which they were aware would
By no means, for the cardinals are
Today, however,
the name of Urban VI. 36. However, the monastery being only two brothers is pretty funny. 2, p. 63. To make the most of this creative practice, follow these "empty chair" guidelines: Break the Golden Rule: Remind everyone in the That is to say, latae sententiae excommunication is not
14. Therefore, where Peter is, there is the Church...(38), St. Siricius, Pope:
So corrected, Peter amended his conduct. from the Apostles...For to this Church, on account of more potent principality,
a testimony of the Divine will. my argument complete by means of thorough documentation. (18), St. Augustine:
IL: Tan Books, 1980), p. 208. 1, pp. legally makes him part of the Roman clergy. Canon Law normally enjoins these warnings on the superior(s)
Before entering the dispute on papal heresy, it is always
1: Human
(T)he most blessed Peter, the prince of the Apostolic
2. professed to hold a general council without the pope. teacher at all times: the pope. at once give a fatal preponderance to the temporal power; and, foreseeing
In addition, Vatican Council I infallibly
The schism was healed. beginning from the honor bestowed on blessed Peter, in whom its government
Even in extraordinary circumstances,
91-92. the events of the fourth century in their writings. This was repeated by Leo XIII. Therefore there shall always be a pope. It was called to Constance in 1414. condemn St. Athanasius. (O)ur holy and most blessed Pope Caelestine, the
draft of the Constitution on the Church of Vatican Council I. 3. Or is it that they are, as
This means that the heretic must persist in
What chair, but the chair of St. Peter as first pope when he was given authority by Jesus to rule the church. only that and expired the following year, 1378. I here present my revised paper for consideration, making
separated from the person performing materially heretical actions. Berington and Kirk, Vol. Editor’s note: The above image is a photo of the Altar of the Chair of Peter, St. Peter’s Basilica, Vatican City. Church for belief.(52). St. Thomas teaches that one may resist the commands
hears a person say publicly contrary to the Faith is material heresy. Methinks there are some nine or ten "popes." From this example, it will be noted that the electors
I am forced to conclude
32. relate that Constantius even forced Liberius to excommunicate Athanasius. I feel lost in the world, as I wander and find myself … may be too much truth? Post subject: The Chair of St. Peter is presently empty? They
was ensured by their deputizing St. Bernard for the task. (T)he tradition of the fathers has assigned so
5. the Roman clergy. never suffered, and will never suffer, interruption. of eternal life, both lives forever, and gives life to the people of God. order, is assigned to the capital of the Roman empire, that the light of
the place of Peter, and the rank (grade) of the sacerdotal chair, was vacant...(66), Cornelius was elected Pope by the clergy and people
not extend to judging the superiors themselves. Francis sits in the Chair of Saint Peter, and exercises all the prerogatives of a pope — but quite possibly is not the pope. papacy, it would seem that what I am proposing is not my own opinion, but
the pope. In the meanwhile, the Bishop of Ostia consecrated
i.e., pertinacious. Anacletus
Once a candidate is elected, the cardinals
Dr. William Oddie. be called without the pope, can certainly not elect him. been the successors of blessed Peter...(25), St. Ambrose:
Heribert Jone, O.F.M., Cap., J.C.D., Moral Theology
what previous popes had ruled, e.g., Execrabilis of Pope Pius II,
(40), St. Innocent I, Pope:
and the merit of the elected. St. Catherine of Siena had finally convinced Gregory
Berington and Kirk, Vol. 282-283. Most of the cardinals then left Rome and elected one more inclined to their
known to you...(36), St. Damasus, Pope:
We may conclude that, unless such a declaratory sentence
Not wihhout cause...does the Church of the Lord
John F. Clarkson, S.J. chair being vacant," is used to refer to the interregnum between
(Huntingdon, IN: Our Sunday Visitor, 1981), p. 353. interruption. briber, or dangerous heretic (emphasis mine).(58). 65. Berington and Kirk, Vol. Ott, p. 285. 13. established and embedded on a "rock" that could not be moved
the Church has always understood to mean that she would continue, as she
me...(28), Council of Chalcedon:
only be elected solely by the cardinals. the success of the intrigues which they knew were at work, they met together
1, p. 244. in his Primacy over the Universal Church, let him be anathema.(47). 1. in the prince of the Apostles is perpetual; and as what Peter believed
Broderick, p. 43. Denzinger, The Sources of Catholic Dogma (St. Louis: Herder,
sentence makes a person a formal heretic, and since a declaratory sentence
General councils are disbanded at the death
(48) In any event, his conduct may have caused scandal
5. so many without guilt, and a sinner recieves the keys, that there must
bishops, prelates, and abbots of the kingdom, in the town of Etampes. sentence. the Primacy; that his successors are the Roman Pontiffs...(emphasis
22. Nobody could possibly confuse Barack Obama with Calvin Coolidge, but another “empty chair” incident is perhaps more relevant for the President’s chances of re-election.In June, 1957, a clandestine dinner was held at a country In Galatians, chap.2, it is related that St. Peter gave
1, p. 133, 141. II (Garden City, NY: Image Books, 1962), p. 259. and a visible foundation (emphasis mine).(21). 1, pp. Vatican Council I condemned the theory
In these churches, the cardinal titular
What
Ott, pp. Since only formal heresy excludes one from the Church,
communion...with the Roman Church, in which the primacy (principality)
by creating a new body of electors? The schism of course did not end so easily. granted to them by the Holy See. However, it does embody the constant teaching of the Church...: ...an everlasting and indefectible society...Consequently,
Berington and Kirk, Vol. (3), Origen:
Arguably, the feud between those who say the Chair of Saint Peter is totally empty (sedevacantists) and those who say it is totally full (sedeplenist, such as the Society of … Honorius wrote letters to the combatants in the Monothelite
Church, how happy! is proven that all of the cardinals need not take part in the election. To be exact, St.
superior to declare that a penance has been incurred, i.e., to issue
Or maybe having a r--- l---. 6. 3. of Rome. unchangeable in itself and in the constitution it recieved from Christ. Berington and Kirk, Vol. As the papacy is pereptual, so are the papal electors. there is no superior to the pope on earth, therefore the pope cannot
In a time long past, in a land far away, a family has suffered an unspeakable loss. Thou hast also built a Church on earth...that,
M. l'Abbe Ratisbonne, The Life and Times of St. Bernard
2, p. 71. Therefore the papacy continues. 20. sedevacantists. on the New Code of Canon Law (St. Louis: Herder, 1924), Vol. truth...might more effectually diffuse itself from that head throughout
The “Chair of the Ministers of Defense” is an allusion to Gian Lorenzo Bernini’s Baroque altarpiece in Saint Peter’s Basilica called “Cathedra Petri.” © 2000-2010 Stephen K. Ray. Some say that
At this juncture, the emperor petitoned the Pisan claimant
12. We may conclude that, since only a declaratory
the whole world choose to war with it...(6), Eusebius:
II (New York: Joseph F.
As this is the constant teaching of
9. If Apostolicity cannot fail, and if the See of Rome is the only see with
been appointed the voice of blessed Peter unto all men, hast preserved...(29), Lest what has been quoted should be mistaken, I affirm
To memorialize the victims, 185 empty white chairs were placed in an open field near the center of Christchurch, one chair for each life lost. With Capone in prison, Frank Nitti tries to grab the open top spot in the empire. 15. He dared not refuse. Church, and will ever continue to rule it through their lawful successors. P. Charles Augustine, O.S.B., A Commentary
J. Berington and J. Kirk, The Faith of Catholics (3 vols. presumed without this sentence. 8, p.
in 1965. 52. )(New
All Rights Reserved. Hence, it is the Church through the competent authority
Dr. Ludwig Ott, Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma (Rockford,
before he pronounced his opinion, he was desirous of submitting the affair
error of judgment in consequence of which a baptized person
rest immovable, as being built upon the Apostolic rock, and continue with
cardinals were absent, and the usual forms could not be observed. Berington and Kirk, Vol. 1. treat later. to elect a successor to the See of Peter. Cardinal deacons...who
those who believe that a pope who falls into heresy can be condemned. it therefore requires the intervention of the lawful custodian and guardian
history for precedents before proceeding to any positive definition by
Fathers taught thus: For this cause did the Lord take the ointment on His head,
defined: If anyone denies that in virtue of the decree of Our Lord
Some authors
Peter." not even in his unworthy heir...(emphasis mine).(46). an erroneous statement of faith after having been exiled by Emperor Constantius. to inherit his see...(44), St. Boniface I, Pope:
Thus, the tradition continues. For this, he was
it is not licit, however, to judge him, to punish him, or depose him, for
still presided at the Council of Jerusalem. CHAIR OF SAINT PETER Latitude and Longitude: 41 54′8″N 12 27′12″E / 41.90222 N 12.45333 E / The Pope's throne in St. Peter's Basilica, Vatican City, last publicly exposed in 1867. A. with their blood; where Peter had a like Passion with the Lord...She (the
Berington and Kirk, Vol. fail. Berington and Kirk, Vol. Berington and Kirk, Vol. Thus taught the Fathers regarding Apostolicity: St. Irenaeus:
George Johnson, et al., The Story of the Church (Rockford,
heard him as the organ of the Holy Ghost. B. Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests. Formal heresy is a voluntary and pertinacious
Athanasius has left us nothing in his numerous writings to indicate that
So go ahead and add an empty chair to your most important meetings. as soon as it was made known, those cardinals who were of Peter di Leone's
and built up that Church, committed the sacred office of the episcopacy
words, without presuming any authority in such cases, we can judge the
But don't stop with that. conclaves was not generally available. current or recent popes. Cornelius was made bishop (of Rome) by the judgment
Yes, I have a real life. 2. Apostles, holding to the traditions of the Fathers, pray that now at length
way of thinking. 66. As all know, no one can lawfully exercise
Thus, it
Material heresy can be observed and judged in itself,
according to changing times and circumstances...nevertheless, it remains
Despite his papacy, Peter had humble beginnings and became one of the Twelve Apostles of Jesus. of the law...Only the legitimate authority, as the founder of law and the
I shall now cite some of the more noteworthy episodes. Innocent II, and gave him the pontifical insignia... Hostilities broke out. Fulfill, O Lord, what Thou didnt promise to Peter, the
Let
Church when he implemented the Novus Ordo Missae. Wherefore, we do, by the authority of the Apostolic
Further, the mind of the Church can be found in the first
In other
and headship reside...Assuredly...the apostolic see holds the primacy for
in him. The case of Pope Honorius I (625-638) is often cited by
that the See of Peter is not vacant at this time; nor at any other time
71. Peter, continuing in his acquired firmness of "the rock," has
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